Welcome to POLITICO’s West Wing Playbook, your guide to the people and power centers in the Biden administration. With Allie Bice. Send tips | Subscribe here | Email Alex | Email Tina JOE BIDEN’s political life is inextricably tied to his family. They’ve worked on most of his campaigns, he talks to them regularly, and they’ve created political headaches for him — his son HUNTER BIDEN most of all. It’s fitting, then, that one of the first Biden books of his presidency looks at the president through the lens of his wife, children and relatives: "The Bidens" by POLITICO’s BEN SCHRECKINGER, which is out today. We emailed back and forth with Ben about his new book and what he learned about the Biden family while writing it. Here’s our exchange, lightly edited for length: Alex: In the book, you sit down with JILL BIDEN’s ex, BILL STEVENSON. Why did you decide to do that? What is he like? Ben: He's an important figure in their backstory, not just as Jill's ex, but as a big backer of the '72 Senate campaign and later as a business rival of [Joe’s brother] JIMMY's. He's a real character. I recommend having a beer with him, if you get the chance. Alex: What do you mean a character? Ben: He's very emphatic when he speaks — his eyes kind of bulge when he makes a point — and he has these wild stories from his days as the owner of the Stone Balloon, which was this legendary rock club near the University of Delaware. He also says that he was very close to KATHIE DURST, the first wife of the notorious New York real estate heir ROBERT DURST, and that he's working to bring Durst to justice over Kathie's 1982 disappearance (Durst, who was convicted this month of murdering another woman, has denied wrongdoing in the disappearance). Alex: You’ve now dug deep into all the Bidens not named Joe: VAL, Jimmy, FRANK, Hunter, BEAU, ASHLEY, and Jill. Which one do you find the most interesting and why? Ben : Like Val and Frank, Jimmy was involved from the start in his brother's political operation. His business dealings are at least as interesting as Hunter's, but he has kept a much lower profile than either Val or Hunter. I would definitely read a Jimmy Biden memoir. Alex: What’s the business deal you want to know the most about? Ben: Right now, it's the U.K. clean-energy venture that, according to The Financial Times, was abandoned this year after a White House ethics review. Alex: You’ve spent hours reading old Joe Biden profiles and books. Which one did you think was the most insightful? Ben : Can I throw a curveball and say old [Delaware] News Journal coverage? It's such a trove, and a throwback to the glory days of local newspapers. Alex: Is there a particular News Journal story that’s stuck with you? Ben: Off the top of my head, their coverage of Joe's 1973 Senate swearing-in. It captures the tumult and the surreality of the scene at the hospital as well as any glossy magazine would. I'll also add that after I wrapped up the book, MAUREEN MILFORD, who was a longtime News Journal political correspondent, flagged to me a pretty extraordinary profile of Biden from 1970. He's 27 years old and he's just been elected to the county council, and the profile is already comparing him to JACK KENNEDY , predicting he'll be a statesman, that he might even run for the Senate in 1972. The piece, by JANE HARRIMAN, is uncannily prescient. Alex: What do you think the Biden family provides to the portrait of Biden himself that we don't already know? Ben: Americans tend to have this 'great man' view of presidents as these towering figures who bend history to their will by dint of their extraordinary personalities. It's very individualistic. But I think the Trump era exploded a lot of the mythos surrounding the presidency. Joe Biden is such a normal guy, and so I wanted to understand him in his context, rather than as some solitary figure. What's true for many people, but is more true for Biden, is that his context is his family. They were the political machine that won his first election, and they (well, mostly Hunter) were the vulnerability his enemies tried to exploit in this last election. So it's not one big thing, it's a hundred things: They offer the answer to what is motivating or enabling or constraining him at so many points along the way. Alex: Can you go through some of your attempts to talk to members of the Biden family? Ben: After a year-plus reporting on various family members for POLITICO, I had a pretty strong sense going in that they would not want to engage for the book. I reached out to the transition and then to the White House about arranging interviews, but not surprisingly, I did not hear back. I also mostly did not hear back when I reached out to family members and their reps individually with questions. One of those reps is GEORGE MESIRES, a lawyer close to the family, who acts at times as a spokesman for Hunter and Jimmy. The one family member who has engaged with me directly is Frank, and he's continued to engage even though the reporting is often investigative, looking into his business affairs. So I appreciate that. Thanks Frank, if you're a West Wing Playbook reader. Do you work in the Biden administration? Are you in touch with the White House? Are you EVAN WESSEL, the policy adviser to the office of intergovernmental affairs? We want to hear from you — and we’ll keep you anonymous: westwingtips@politico.com. Or if you want to stay really anonymous send us a tip through SecureDrop, Signal, Telegram, or Whatsapp here. |