CEO: Progressive regulators' ideas 'very dated'

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Lindsey Johnson took over as head of the Consumer Bankers Association in July at a time of heightened scrutiny for retail banks.

Overdraft and junk fees. Consumer data collection. Payments fraud. Anti-redlining rules. Abusive practices.

Biden administration financial regulators are eyeing dozens of areas for potential changes to the way financial institutions serve American consumers and communities — with many of those efforts coming to a head this fall.

Johnson sat down with MM this week for a brief chat to talk about upcoming congressional hearings with the big bank CEOs, rising payments fraud, working with regulators and more.

Her biggest gripe, in so many words: It’s not 2008 anymore.

“Some of the things that policymakers are pressing the banks on — whether it is bank fees, whether it is overdraft — a lot of the commentary, a lot of the discussion points are just very dated,” she said. (For example, CBA argues the “$35 cup of coffee” isn’t really a thing anymore — most overdraft charges cover larger purchases, according to a 2021 study, which they attribute to changes made by banks to mitigate big fees for tiny purchases.)

“One thing that we have been very, very strong about is ensuring that policymakers are speaking from a point of reality, today’s reality, using data [and] using the analysis that's been done, and not just using political or ideological talking points,” Johnson added.

What’s the message the big bank CEOs will bring to lawmakers later this month?

“The biggest message is going to be that this industry is prepared and they are coming from a position of strength to lead the economy through this next phase,” she said.

That was also true in the early months of the pandemic, she added, when banks helped ensure that small businesses stayed afloat and workers kept or returned to their jobs.

 

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Consumer Bankers Association President Lindsey Johnson gestures as she speaks to bankers in Greenville, S.C.

CBA President and CEO Lindsey Johnson speaks at the group's 2022 Executive Banking School in Greenville, S.C., in August. | Consumer Bankers Association

Could banks be doing more to address payments fraud? Lawmakers have urged the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to hold banks more accountable for scams targeting consumers on payments platforms such as Zelle.

While banks are concerned about rising fraud, Johnson said, shifting liability to banks would “have significant ripple effects throughout the American economy.”

“Those proposals don’t do anything to actually address the underlying issue and solve the problem, and in fact it could make scams more prevalent,” she said, adding that policymakers should support longstanding bank efforts to prevent fraud, and detect and mitigate scams.

Johnson isn’t a fan either of updates to CFPB’s exam manual for so-called unfair, deceptive or abusive acts and practices, which several bank trade groups have called on the consumer bureau to rescind.

“We think that these sweeping changes ushered in under this manual really have the potential of altering the legal duties of the Bureau,” she said.

But Johnson demurred when asked whether CBA or another trade group could mount a legal challenge.

“We’ve argued and will continue to argue that the CFPB has got to follow the [Administrative Procedure Act] process,” she said. “At this time, we’re just looking at the impacts of this … and we’re looking at the different options on the table.”

What’s the biggest change in Washington for trade groups CEOs? Johnson, who worked on Capitol Hill and was previously head of the U.S. Mortgage Insurers, says regulators now often go around business and outside normal processes to set policy.

“The way that we work together with these regulatory bodies has shifted,” she said. “I would love to see it grow in a more constructive way. It’s very counterproductive to not work with the industry, to not work with the entities that you regulate, to not try and address these issues in a transparent way.”

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